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Bronica 14x Ps Teleconverter for Sq System Reviews

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  1. Right at present I have an opportunity to acquire a Mamiya half dozen 6x6 120 camera. Information technology would exist in exchange for a trade; a valuable particular I don't have much use for anymore. I'yard currently in negotiations with the seller (he wanted $2500 for the Mamiya half dozen plus 3 lenses.) The camera is in mint condition, by the way.

    I'chiliad hoping this deal goes through, but if not, I may buy a unlike kind of 6x6: a Bronica. This is a totally unlike kind of photographic camera. It'southward of the large "cube" design, with a pop-upwards waist level viewfinder (some have prism eyepieces that brand it more similar a conventional SLR.) Adequately clunky and heavy, and a skilful deal more than primitive than the Mamiya half dozen. Also, totally different focusing organization (the Mamiya is a rangefinder.)

    The large benefit of the Mamiya is its compactness and convenience. The big downside is the price.

    The upside of the Bronica is the low cost, and the vintage-absurd cistron. And the thing does await pretty damn absurd. But the handling and maneuverability won't be great.

    All things existence considered, which would Yous rather apply? I've seen lots of great shots on Flickr from Bronicas, just I presume the learning curve would be a skilful deal greater.

    Any opinions?

  2. they both are very different cameras but are capable of producing great results. ultimately information technology boils down to what you demand the camera for.
    for me, for $ii,500, i would become for neither and settle for the hasselblad 500cm and a couple of lenses ;-)
  3. Here's the thing. I don't really *accept* $2500 to spend on a camera. What I have is a very valuable rifle that I am wanting to trade for the Mamiya 6 being offered by the seller. He is receptive to the merchandise, but we are still in negotiations at the moment. I am hoping that by tomorrow we will take worked out the details and the merchandise will exist on. But if it falls through, that doesn't mean I have $2500 to spend on a different camera. Information technology ways I take to notice some other camera that is more inside my budget (which the Bronica is.)
    I've seen tons of shots on Flickr made with Bronicas that all look fantastic, so I'm sure the photographic camera can produce fantabulous results. The main benefit of the Mamiya seems to exist the convenience, and the fact that information technology'due south more modern.
  4. Similar analogies can be used when comparing shooting guns or cameras.
    It boils downward to using the right tool for the job at hand; long shots vs nearly, wide vs close-up, etc...
    Mamiya 6, a rangefinder, will be a much faster handling/shooting camera. Shoots more similar a 35mm SLR.
    Easier to behave, better for fast action shooting, street photography, and photo journalism manner of shooting.
    Definitely not the beginning choice for portraiture or still life photography.
    Either photographic camera volition render splendid landscape shots mounted on a tripod.
    A SLR Bronica kit will exist a flake bulkier, a bit slower to apply, but will be a much better selection for portraits, and still life'due south.
    For close-ups, or macro photography, the SLR Bronica is basically your better, or only choice between the two.
    Lenses provided for the Mamiya 6 & 7 rangefinders are legendary...second to none, and lenses for the Bronicas are as well highly regarded.
    Medium format demands high quality lenses, and so comparison lens quality between the two systems is sort of a moot bespeak; they're both good.
  5. As far every bit cameras become they are both cracking choices too as Hasselblad.
    Simply in today climate I would not be getting rid of a rifle.....
  6. Tuning in to Russ Britt'due south mentality, here is a scenario. He gives yous the photographic camera, and you paw him the rifle. He turns the burglarize back on y'all, and says: "Now paw over that camera."

    Then all jokes aside - ditch the weapon, and go on with your life and take some proficient photos with that beautiful Mamiya.

  7. Sell the burglarize for cash. So buy the camera that you really want to own and use. I would echo the outset respondent's suggestion...Hasselblad.
  8. For many years I've had a medium format slr- Bronicas in fact- and a 3 lens Mamiya 7ii system. They are each excellent cameras, but I found myself using the Bronica for nigh 80% of my photographs. They are non good at the same things, and complement rather than compete with each other.
    The Bronica scores when
    • You need to frame something accurately
    • Y'all need long lenses . Yous tin can easily go a 250mm for the Bronica
    • You desire to employ grads. I have found it very difficult to position grads accurately with a Mamiya RF
    • When y'all need to see depth of field ttl. You simply tin can't practise it with a rangefinder, and the lens butt markings are close together and somewhat optimistic.
    • If you want to become in close. Mamiya lenses tend not to focus at shut distances and there's no macro lenses available.
    • In my experience the Bronica repair /servicing people in the great britain accept been more helpful and cheaper than the Mamiya equivalent.
    The Mamiya scores when
    • You need to work handheld. IMO I get meliorate results from a Mamiya 7 at 1/fifteen handheld than I practice from a Bronica.
    • Your situation with security guards is marginal. This does relate to the tripod/no tripod upshot , but I'm convinced that I've got abroad with things using a Mamiya RF and a small bag that would have attracted a lot of negative arttention with a bigger photographic camera.
    • Its certainly lighter for carrying about all solar day (though the Bronica is no fauna and the difference might exist less than y'all'd think if you choose equivalent focal length lenses.
    • For a lot of people the rangefinder focus is quicker for utilise on the street.
    Fact is that I accept plenty of photographs with each of these that I couldn't expect to go with the other. If y'all got the nigh recent SQ-Ai generation of bronica and then the systems are near the same age. Neither has a meter worth anything - I chose to use a handheld spotmeter with both cameras just and then I was using slide picture.
    In reality yous have to understand the differences in the context of how you'd expect to use a camera and decide which set of advantages is more relevent.
  9. You need to say which detail Bronica--there is a difference between older and later lenses. From what I've seen, the last generation of lenses are equal to the Hasselblad, but the older designs are not.
    If you have photos of architecture, the lenses of the Mamiya have very fiddling distortion. The Mamiya will have both 120/220 film (nevertheless bachelor in color) and you can easily stick a flash on meridian. Focusing is faster than my Hasselblad with the latest (accu matte D) screen, especially in low light. Y'all'll never have light leaks in the backs, though you might in the bellows. Finally, the Mamiya is getting less repairable.
    Likewise, I'd resist the urge to buy which is more than cool.
  10. Kevin you missed completely, but thank you for the thought......
  11. Lenses provided for the Mamiya vi & 7 rangefinders are legendary...second to none, and lenses for the Bronicas are also highly regarded.​
    When I was shooting full time I used Bronica's ETRS system for weddings. They guy I routinely shot for was a defended Hasselblad user. In a decade or more he (and our clients) never had anything only praise for the image quality the Bronica lenses produced.
    Henry Posner
    B&H Photo-Video
  12. Henry,
    That may be true, but at that place is a substantial departure in contras,t ability to fight flare, and performance wide-open between the older Nikkors made for Bronica and modern lenses.
    Scott
  13. It sounds like the Bronica might be a focal-plane shutter type similar an EC or S serial, based on the "vintage cool" attribute you mentioned.

    With the newer SQ series the Speed Grip volition go far handle more like a 35mm SLR.
    If you lot become the Mamiya and determine information technology's non for you, you can sell it and get a Bronica and several lenses.

  14. Who cares about vintage cool cistron except if you worry about what people recollect well-nigh yous and your (functioning?) camera instead of the quality of your images and the ease with which you produced them.
    Shoot with equipment that works for your style of shooting (no pun intended about the rifle) firstly.
    The Mamiya 6 is an awesome camera considering its ease of use like a 35mmRF still huge negs, it comes with great lenses and is a turnkey deal.
    Forget the Bronica...its a lousy Hasselbald knockoff. Expect at KEH prices to give you relative desirability by virtue of prices for both.
  15. I ain both cameras yous're talking about, and I second to David Henderson'south good comment about the pro'southward and con's.
    The Bronica SQ-Ai (assuming we're talking about the 6x6 camera) is neither lousy, vintage, clunky nor heavy, and definitely not more primitive than the Mamiya 6.
    I don't utilise my MF photographic camera's very oftentimes these days, but when information technology comes to MF, the Bronica sees the most utilize, mainly for three reasons: i) I can pre-visualize the final paradigm and depth of field much amend on the Bronica screen, ii) I have a broad selection of focal lengths (40, 80, 150, 250 plus 65, 112, 210 and 350 with 1.4x tele converter) 3) I tin can change picture show backs (slide motion-picture show, color and b/due west negative films).
    Shooting from a tripod and using mirror lock up, I become the sharpest images I could imagine.
    A few months ago, I had several 6x6 images scanned with an Imacon/Hasselblad X1 scanner at max resolution (made with both the Bronica and a Hasselblad 503CW and a variety of focal lengths), only to find out that I couldn't tell which image was fabricated with the Bronica or the Hasselblad.
  16. Thurston-
    Y'all aid no one by characterizing the Bronica the way you did. Bronicas were very successful for many decades, which would non have happened if they were lousy. The focal-plane shutter Bronicas were a more than successful pattern than the original Hasselblad focal-plane shutter cameras.
    None of them were knock-offs, being significantly dissimilar in pattern.
    The Hasselblad 500 series cameras are dirt cheap now, but every bit the Bronica SQ serial cameras are, and don't cost much more than. The lenses are more, just they are the renowned Zeiss after all.
    Hasselblads, while wonderful machines, too are easier to mess upwardly with, for instance easy to jam past not following sequence in mounting a lens. The SQ's are much amend in that regard. I recollect most people would benefit by starting with a Bronica to see if that type of camera is for them before moving, if they determine they want to, to a Hasselblad. Just my stance.
    Lots of people take preferences and/or prejudices regarding equipment. They are often from ignorance, every bit your statement conspicuously is. Giving advice based solely on those preferences or prejudices, specially with unwarranted trashing of an entire marque, is not in whatsoever way helpful to someone trying to brand a expert choice.
  17. Russ B.:
    Kevin you missed completely,​
    You lot mean I was off-target? ;-) .. Well, I was only being silly and brassy anyway. Actually forcing myself to hang on to a shred of humour wherever I can find it. I'm in Norway at the moment. This is completely off-topic ( sorry A.D. Isaac ) .. merely yesterday I actually signed an online petition to invoke the death penalisation for the Neo Nazi who blew away so many good young people here on Friday. And whilst I make light of references to the burglarize, were they to call for volunteers to form a firing squad, pacifist me would be first up the marker. (Never thought I'd hear myself say that.) During military grooming many moons ago, I used to be a crack shot with a WWII British, Lee Enfield .303" service rifle. And that guy is one target I would certainly not miss.
    With apologies, the moderators can delete this if preferred. I wish it were as simple to 'delete' a terrorist.

    CAMERAS - Because I like working with a Leica M3 for fast, spontaneous shooting, I am keen to effort my hand with a medium format rangefinder for street photography, and accept been considering the Mamiya 6/vii cameras, as well as the Fuji rangefinders. I sold a 6x6 Bronica back in 1989, and put the proceeds on a Hasselblad, and I have not looked back since. To be fair, information technology was an S2A, which is a tin can compared with the later Bronicas. But for the entire range of applications I need a photographic camera for, ranging from Mural, macro, copy work, to portraits with 150 and 250 mm Lenses, the modular 6x6 camera with interchangeable magazines is invaluable. .. non to mention the bellows and a whole array of accessories.

    Yet, if the Mamiya on offer is equally good as you say, it would be very overnice to take.

  18. Jeff, I've endemic my Hassy for a couple years now, and never once jammed the shutter, camera, or anything else. It's a 500C/M, which is the lowest-tech of the "modern" Hassys. The lens and shutter need to be cocked at all times. However, non cocking the camera ways that the viewfinder is black. Also, my lenses are extremely diffcult to remove when uncocked. I'k sure I could, but I'd need to really crank on them.

    I'one thousand certain this problem exists, but it's nowhere near common enough that information technology should be 1 of the main reasons for photographic camera selection.

  19. Russ - I have fashion more firearms than I need, and so don't fearfulness, I will still exist quite okay in the burglarize department.
  20. I haven't owned a rangefinder still.

    I've endemic a couple Bronicas though.

    I've looked at the Mamiya 7s, they might exist worth $2500 with three lenses. But the 6 looks similar a steal for the camera
    seller, to me.

  21. Richard,
    That's the current market place. KEH sells six bodies now for over $1500, so another $1000 for the 3 lenses is pretty reasonable, especially since the fifty mostly goes for nearly $900 by itself.
  22. Zack-
    Thanks for that.
    The jamming outcome is modest for anyone who is reasonably careful. My point was that for a beginner, at least some beginners, Hasselblads are less forgiving of careless errors. In plow, that point was to illustrate a positive, in my opinion superior, attribute of Bronicas to evidence that it's non all one way or the other, and that consideration should be given to the range of attributes each has. For case, some might adopt the completely mechanical nature of the Hasselblad, while someone else might prefer the electronic shutter speed control and extended ho-hum speed range of the Bronica SQ serial.
    I have no outcome with a beginner buying Hasselblad--but with the unfair statement to which I responded.
    I exercise think that the Bronica can exist a bang-up introduction to medium format for a fair amount less (because of lens cost) than Hasselblad.
  23. Jeff, the problems yous're describing (jamming due to carelessness) are non Hasselblad's persay, simply can be had on whatsoever photographic camera with interchangable lenses and a leafage shutter. In fact, the only jamming problems I've e'er had (due to misuse and not malfunction) was with a Mamiya C330f, which I had very briefly before buying the Hasselblad.
    On the Mamiya the photographic camera and lens both needed to be cocked or uncocked; it didn't matter which, every bit long as they matched. Unlike the Hassy, there was no visual or mechanical indication that this was the case; if the lever on the lens was down, it was uncocked. Up, it was cocked. The photographic camera itself has (as I retrieve) no indicator at all, which makes it piece of cake to jam. And unlike the Hassy, you can't prepare it with a screwdriver; you demand to open up and close the back, which requires advancing through several frames of now-wasted film and screwing up your frame counter.
    Oddly enough, this wasn't why I got rid of the Mamiya. It was considering the thing was and then large and heavy that I figured I may as well own the Hassy, so I bought one :) That said, I did like the images more than any other TLR I've used, if only because I like slight tele shots, and I can't afford a good-condition Rollei Tele.
    Bronicas ARE less prone to jamming, just the fact is that if you manhandle a Hassy plenty to jam information technology often, then you're patently treating your equipment with such carelessness that yous're going to get awful photos no thing what gear you're using.
  24. Predictably this thread has gotten off topic; but in all fairness we tin can't requite much advice without knowing which Bronica the OP is talking well-nigh. The newer leaf shutter models tin be every bit as easy to use as a rangefinder if you have a speed grip and AE prism finder. But then there really isn't any retro-cistron to speak of. If it is ane of the focal plane shutter models then information technology is likely to be a very different shooting feel; WLF, transmission exposure, cranking to advance film... very unlike indeed from a rangefinder.
  25. "Forget the Bronica...its a lousy Hasselbald knockoff".
    What a stupid ignorant comment to make about a perfectly decent camera.
  26. Mr Isaac,

    I desire to requite y'all some hard learned communication. The bronica sqai is a wonderful camera torso, the film backs are well made, and the
    lenses built like precision tanks. Just, there are 2. Things to think carefully about: 6x6 often gets cropped to 6x4.5. As well, while david
    Henderson and other will debate me, the resolution functioning of the PS serial lenses, despite their Japanese pedigree and
    superior build, is not breath taking.

    Merely, if you have access to a drum scanner or imacon or nikon 9000 that tin squeeze every last ounce from a bronica ps lens, so I
    say go for information technology.

    Yet if yous want to go really serious go for a 6x7 camera such equally the bronica GS one or Mamiya 7. If size is not a business, a
    Mamiya RB or RZ should exist explored for superior eyes and the convenience of the rotating back

  27. There is zero incorrect with the 6 ten 6 format, peculiarly if y'all take transparencies. The Zenzanon lenses are too equally as good equally their Zeiss counterparts irrespective of what others say.
  28. David Smith , Jul 27, 2011; 02:24 p.yard.
    The Zenzanon lenses are besides as every bit skillful as their Zeiss counterparts irrespective of what others say.​
    My goal isn't to start a flame war here, but that statement seems to read like you're saying 'my opinion is the just one that matters.' Unless y'all have solid, documented evidence, your opinion is no more valid than mine or anyone else's.
    My experience - and this is from enquiry and discussions with users, along with personal use - not lab tests - is that certain versions of the Zeiss (or Schneider) lenses are absoutely better than their Japanese counterparts. A modern Zeiss is improve than a modern Zenzanon, and an old Zeiss is meliorate than an sometime Zenzanon. However, an old Zeiss is worse than a modernistic Zenzanon. So if your upkeep is (for sake of argument) $500 per lens, the lenses that you can buy will be amend if you buy Japanese. If you're asking which is improve in full general terms, it's the German ones.
    Bear in mind also that when I say 'amend', I mean that is the concensus of knowledgable people whom I have spoken to. If yous personally adopt i over the other, than disregard what is 'better.' The Hassy C lenses are supposedly the worst, but I like them the best, every bit I mostly shoot black and white, and I recall the more than interesting tonality of those lenses is worth giving up the more authentic colour correction of the newer lenses.
  29. Thanks for all the very informative feedback. I'k glad this thread generated and then much discussion.

    I wound up getting a Bronica 6x6 SQ with an 80mm lens, speed grip and metered prism finder. And I will certainly let you all know how it goes. I

  30. "My goal isn't to kickoff a flame war hither"
    Well, you lot seem to be doing a good job. You criticise me for giving an informed opinion, and then proceed to practise the same affair yourself. For most practical purposes (and in my experience) the two brands of lenses are equally good, and I have no preference. My judge is that if you lot displayed 2 dozen tranparencies on a lightbox (or projected them) half taken with Zeiss lenses, and half with Zenzanon lenses, you wouldn't be able to pick one from the other.
    My only aim was to counter the ill-informed and biased opinions of the anti Bronica brigade
  31. Adding a metering prism and winder (thumb or powered) to the Bronica box will transform information technology from an awkward studio camera into a large, auto exposing, handheld SLR. The kit won't be quite as elegant as the RF Mamiya, but will work just as well and tin can exist had for a fraction of the price. I don't think the learning bend is steep at all. You will may to do loading the film, and shoud requite the manual a read before proceeding.
    http://www.tamron-u.s..com/bronica/prod/sq.asp
    http://www.tamron-the states.com/assets/pdfs/SQ-Ai.pdf
    http://www.tamron-u.s.a..com/assets/pdfs/SQ-A.pdf
    http://world wide web.tamron-the states.com/assets/pdfs/SQ-B.pdf
    My thoughts on the SQ lineup: The bodies are built using a lot of 'plastic.' They aren't flimsy or cheap, but aren't indestructible bricks. Compare them to a modern mid-high end DSLR. The lenses, OTOH, are very robust; lots of steel, brass, whatever, and plenty abrupt. The film back and prisms are somewhere in the heart; plenty of metal, simply it's not applied in tank-similar quantities. Overall, the organization is entirely competent and is - due in part to the ignorant 'Blad Snobbery yous've seen here - an excellent value. Buy a squeamish Bronica kit for $500+ and spend the money you just saved on a photo-vacation!
  32. Greg, adding a prism and winder significantly adds to the weight of the organization, but that's simply personal choice. Regarding your comments on the construction - the SQAi (and SQB) do use a polycarbonate outer crush as opposed to a metal one on the SQA. Having used both, I tin can't say one was improve than the other, but the SQAi is a piffling more than durable due to the fact that at that place isn't any paint to wear off.
    I concord with your comments on the lenses - you rarely find build quality of this standard in optics nowadays. The backs are predominantley metal, but do utilize a sure amount of plastic in the film holder.
  33. Advertizing Isaac, glad to hear you took the plunge. The Bronica PS 80 lens is good.
    Here are others that I recommend (all the Bronica PS wide angles are good - I used them all):
    PS 40mm (sharp, excellent color)
    PS 50mm Ditto
    PS 65mk Very Abrupt - The best Lens in the series, I call back!
    PS 180 Good Sharpness, shut focusing to one meter. Best portrait lens
    I did non similar the PS 200mm. But its lack of loftier resolution may make information technology perfect for portraiture
    Enjoy!
  34. PS 65mg Very Sharp - The best Lens in the serial, I think!​
    That resonates with my experience, although my feel with the PS lenses is odd, and limited to simply two (65mm and 80mm). I say "odd" because I never shot them on a Bronica camera: I remounted the lens cells (which are threaded for standard size 0 shutters) into Mamiya Printing shutter-butt assemblies, and shot them instead on a Mamiya Universal with 6x9 backs.
    The 80mm PS delivered a skilful sharp contrasty 6x7 format epitome, or panoramic cropped 4x9, merely 6x8 was a button - as vignetting was kick in.
    The 65mm PS on the other hand hands filled 6x8, and even at 6x9 vignetting was but faintly noticeable, when well stopped downward. And the image quality was superlative notch. Even wide open, it had very low aberrations.
  35. Equally a recent user of Bronica equipment (SQ-AM with fourscore/ii.8 and 50/three.five S lenses), I come across no deviation to 80/2.eight Zeiss Planar from the Hassy I used to shoot. These are all looking at transparencies on light table with 6x loupe.
    Here's a chap on the Kiev list that has done a lot of comparisons of medium format lenses, including Zeiss and Bronica. I but don't come across whatever difference in the 80/2.8 Zeiss compared to eighty/ii.eight Bronica:
    http://kievaholic.com/LensTestsNormal2/alphabetize.html
    For the most part, sharpness will exist more than affected by use/non-use of a solid tripod and mirror-slap than credible lens sahrpness. In the real earth, it'due south a wash.
  36. A.D.Isaac, Very happy for you in choosing the Bronica.
    I recollect you will detect that the learning curve with the Bronica SLR, volition exist a fleck faster and so it would have been with the Mamiya Rangefinder.
    In the future, I call up you lot will find the SLR, will more easily enable a broader range of versatility, and permit a quicker mastery of varied shooting situations, and then the rangefinder would have.
    Welcome to Medium Format. Enjoy the journey!
  37. Ray-
    Interesting conversion. I expect that a GS-ane lens would cover 6x9 so.
  38. Jeff,
    Yes, I expect it would cover 6x9. I never had a GS-one lens to endeavor out.
    My motivation was that, with the exception of the 100mm lenses (f2.8 and f3.5), the Mamiya Press lenses all have rather irksome maximum apertures - especially the wide-angles (ane f5.half-dozen and two f6.3). So my two conversions gave me f2.8 and f4 wide-angles. Neither had the edge performance of my rather awesome Press 50mm f6.3 though!
  39. Yous tin't brand general assumptions though.<br>The fact that one lens designed for a smaller format covers a larger one does not mean that another lens made for another format would cover a larger format again too. Non even two dissimilar lenses made for the same format will be the same in this respect.<br>So it's a effort-and-see thingy whether a GS-1 lens would cover 6x9 (and if one does, there'due south no guarantee that another i does also, or that if one doesn't any other ane would besides not.)
  40. Zack,<br><br>Concerning modernistic and onetime Zeiss lenses: there indeed are modern Zeiss lenses, and if yous wish to use them y'all should go a Contax 645 or 35 mm Contax, or now that Contax is no more and they make their lenses for other mounts also, any of those brands.<br>But there's nigh no old vs modernistic when Zeiss lenses for Hasselblad are concerned. About one-time C lenses are the same optics as their later counterparts. I employ both old C (the "chrome" ones) and later on Zeiss Hasselblad lenses, and in that location is no difference in rendition of tones or colour, nor sharpness and contrast.
  41. Q.1000.:
    You lot can't make general assumptions though.
    The fact that one lens designed for a smaller format covers a larger i does not mean that another lens made for some other format would embrace a larger format again likewise. Not even two different lenses fabricated for the aforementioned format will be the same in this respect.​
    Err...I would have thought that all of that was already perfectly clear from my reporting that 2 same-format 6x6 PS lenses were able to cover to dissimilar degrees - 6x7 and 6x8 respectively.
    Then it's a attempt-and-see thingy whether a GS-1 lens would cover 6x9 (and if i does, at that place's no guarantee that another one does too, or that if one doesn't any other one would also non.)​
    I likewise did the same matter with Mamiya 645 70mm f2.viii leaf shutter lens cells. It covered 6x6 well simply it was running out of steam on 6x7. And so my experience with this limited sample is that you tin push coverage up by ane format increase, or fifty-fifty two in the case of the PS 65mm. So I would expect every GS1 lens to at to the lowest degree hit 6x8, and peradventure some hit 6x9. It is definitely "a endeavor-and-see thingy" but as I said, "I never had a GS-1 lens to try out", and I would non brand a bet on the outcome for any detail lens.
    Farther information: another 6x7 photographic camera, the Mamiya RB67, was of grade designed for 6x7 - initially. Years later, (patently to counter the new 6x8 format Fuji GX680), Mamiya brought out 6x8 backs and enlarged the rear baffle to laissez passer a 6x8 image, but the same designed-for-6x7 lenses were however used successfully on these 6x8 backs.

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